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NEWSFLASH! Chemical DHMO Injected Into Japan Reactors

Fri Apr 1, 2011 6:22 AM EDT
japan, science, dhmo, fukushima
By Michael (Astronomy.FM)
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I was shocked - flabbergasted, actually - when I learned that authorities in Japan have begun injecting the chemical dihydrogen monoxide (a.k.a. "DHMO") into the troubled nuclear reactors at the earthquake damaged Fukushima Dai-ichi plant.

DHMO has been injected under high pressure, in a desperate attempt to bring the temperatures in the reactors down to a safer level. When the on-site supply of DHMO was depleted, authorities took extreme measures to rush the delivery of to the site; first, by helicopter, and later via two emergency deliveries by the U.S. Navy. Much, much more DHMO now in the pipeline, with emergency priority delivery to the beleaguered plant now being arranged.

The owners and operators of Fukushima Dai-ichi, the Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO), have admitted that DHMO is now leaking from the stricken reactors, and is entering the Pacific Ocean as well as local groundwater. Dihydrogen monoxide is also venting from the site in vast clouds of steam. Once in the atmosphere the DHMO from Dai-ichi will enter the jet-stream, circle the globe, and will soon spread around the planet. There is no doubt that DHMO from Japan has already reached the United States.

It was hydrogen produced by the reaction of DHMO with the partially melted nuclear fuel rods at Dai-ichi that directly resulted in the massive explosions seen at Reactors #1, #2, and #4. (Elements which are more electropositive than hydrogen such as lithium, sodium, calcium, potassium, and in particular caesium, displace hydrogen from DHMO, forming hydroxides - this process is called "radiolysis". Being a flammable gas, the hydrogen given off is dangerous and the reaction of water with the more electropositive of these elements may be violently explosive, as seen at Dai-ichi.)

Dihydrogen monoxide is colorless, odorless, and tasteless. It sickens over 4 billion and kills over 2 million people every year (United Nations World Health Organization, 2008: www.WHO.int). Most of these deaths are caused by accidental inhalation of DHMO, but the dangers of dihydrogen monoxide do not end there. Prolonged exposure to its solid form causes severe tissue damage. Symptoms of DHMO ingestion can include excessive sweating and urination, and possibly a bloated feeling, nausea, vomiting and body electrolyte imbalance. For those who have become dependent, DHMO withdrawal means certain death.

According to the State of Washington Department of Health, "Recreational DHMO illness can have a significant impact on public health not only because of the severity of the illness but also the number of people who die." (www2.DOH.WA.Gov)

Dihydrogen monoxide:
* is also known as hydroxyl acid, and is the major component of acid rain!
* contributes to the "greenhouse effect"!
* may cause severe burns!
* contributes to the erosion of our natural landscape!
* accelerates corrosion and rusting of many metals!
* may cause electrical failures and decreased effectiveness of automobile brakes!
* has been found in excised tumors of terminal cancer patients!
* contamination has been found in all floodwaters where death has occurred and violent storm rains containing destructive lightning!
* changing from crystalline to liquid is a leading cause of the destruction of arctic ice and glaciers!

Contamination Is Reaching Epidemic Proportions! Quantities of dihydrogen monoxide have been found in almost every stream, lake, and reservoir in America today. But the pollution is global, and the contaminant has even been found in Antarctic ice. DHMO has caused millions of dollars of property damage in the U.S. Midwest, and recently in California. DHMO contamination is even found in most cells in the human body!

Despite the danger, dihydrogen monoxide is often used:
* as an industrial solvent and coolant.
* in nuclear power plants.
* in the production of styrofoam.
* as a fire retardant.
* in many forms of cruel animal research.
* in the distribution of pesticides. Even after washing, produce remains contaminated by this chemical!
* as an additive in certain "junk-foods" and other food products.
* to dissolve medicines before giving them to children and older adults.

Companies dump waste DHMO into rivers and the ocean, and nothing can be done to stop them because this practice is still legal in the United States. The impact on wildlife is extreme, and we cannot afford to ignore it any longer!

The Horror Must Be Stopped!

The American government has refused to ban the production, distribution, or use of this damaging chemical due to its "importance to the economic health of this nation." In fact, the U.S. Navy and other military organizations are conducting experiments with DHMO, and designing multi-billion dollar devices to control and utilize it during warfare situations. Hundreds of military research facilities receive millions of tons of pure DHMO through a highly sophisticated underground distribution network daily. Many facilities store large quantities for later use. Many municipalities also have DHMO storage facilities.

It's Not Too Late! Act NOW to prevent further contamination . Find out more about this dangerous chemical. What you don't know can hurt you and others throughout the world. Write to your Congress person and Senator. Urge them to Ban Dihydrogen Monoxide NOW!

PLEASE COMMENT BELOW! Your comments below will be forwarded to the United States Environmental Protection Agency.

We will continue to cover this story on Michigan Public Broadcasting station WNMC-FM (where I am the Sci+Tech Editor), as well as on Astronomy.FM.

(I wish to thank The Coalition to Ban DHMO (http://BanDHMO.org) for their assistance in preparing this article.)

NOTES:
* DHMO has the second highest molar specific heat capacity of any known substance, after ammonia, as well as a high heat of vaporization (40.65 kJ·mol−1), both of which are a result of the extensive hydrogen bonding between its molecules.
* The maximum density of DHMO occurs at 3.98 °C (39.16 °F). It has the anomalous property of becoming less dense, not more, when it is cooled down to its solid form. It expands to occupy 9% greater volume in this solid state, which accounts for the fact of DHMO floating on liquid water.
* Its Density is 1,000 kg/m3 liquid (4 °C), and weighs 62.4 lb/ft.3 (917 kg/m3, solid). It weighs 8.3454 lb/gal. (US, liquid)
* DHMO is miscible with many liquids, such as ethanol, in all proportions, forming a single homogeneous liquid. On the other hand, DHMO and most oils are immiscible usually forming layers according to increasing density from the top. As a gas, DHMO vapor is completely miscible with air.
* DHMO forms an azeotrope with many other solvents.

Further Reading:
* Anderson, A., & Olson, L. (1961). DHMO: The Untold Story. Chicago: Paladium Press.
* ________. (2007, April 1). Ahmadinejad: A rain of DHMO if Isreal attacks nuclear facilities. (Editorial). The Wall Street Journal.
* Cavuto, N.J. (2003, February 12). DHMO: Was this Saddam Hussein's 'Weapon of Mass Destruction'? MSNBC.
* Faiano, P. (2006). Weaponizing DHMO. International Journal of Inorganic Chemistry.
* O'Boyle, J. (1997, January 7). DiHydrogen Monoxide: What We Don't Know Can Hurt Us!. USA Today.
* Win-Tang Woo, K. (1948). DHMO: Molecular and Constancy Theory. London: Oxford University Press.

Other Web Sites for more information:
* DHMO Material Safety Data Sheet: http://www.dhmo.org/msdsdhmo.html
* The United Nations World Health Organization.
* Information about DiHydrogen Monoxide deaths from the CIA World Fact Book.
* Amazon.com World Wide Web Bookstore for more information about chemical compounds.

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Meloney

DHMO has been injected under high pressure, in a desperate attempt to bring the temperatures in the reactors down to a safer level.

Very interesting - thanks Michael.

What are the properties of DHMO that made it the substance chosen to inject for temperature reduction in this situation? Why did the authorities choose it?

  • 5 votes
Reply#1 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 8:40 AM EDT
Michael (Astronomy.FM)

DHMO was selected as both a coolant and for its ability to act as a neutron moderator.

(It is the regulation of fast neutrons and thermal neutrons that control nuclear chain reactions.)

My concern is the escape of DHMO from the reactors - which has been admitted by TEPCO (the owners of the Dai-ichi nuclear power plant.) DHMO is making its way into the sea, and seeping into the groundwater around the plant.

TEPCO is trying to contain the DHMO runoff, but reportedly the four tanks they were going to use as emergency receptacles were already full (it was not reported what these tanks were full of).

  • 8 votes
#1.1 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 8:58 AM EDT
Meloney

Do the properties of DHMO differ from the known substance that has been injected, water?

  • 7 votes
#1.2 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 12:09 PM EDT
Meloney

(i shoulda checked the date before i bothered to comment, yeah ... ;)

  • 6 votes
#1.3 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 12:22 PM EDT
Michael (Astronomy.FM)

Do the properties of DHMO differ from the known substance that has been injected, water?

Welllllll,

We have your light water, your heavy water, your fresh water, your see water, your tonic water, your seltzer water, your bottled water, your tap water, your ground water, and your stinky green with little floaters water.

It all depends on your cesium or no-see-ums content.

  • 9 votes
#1.4 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 1:26 PM EDT
oldecrankyman

I was astounded when I realized that I drink the stuff in pretty large amounts daily. I'm clearly doomed, and now that I know my toilet is even filled with the stuff, OMG.

And I thought chemtrails were dangerous.

It's a worldwide conspiracy.

  • 4 votes
#1.5 - Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:08 PM EDT
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Physicist-retired

Michael,

This is most alarming, and I sincerely thank you for bringing this critical issue to the attention of the public.

Upon reading this article, I immediately did a complete inventory of my home - and I was ASTONISHED to find how many common household products contain large quantities of DHMO. Even worse, it's presence in those products was frequently disguised through the use of acronyms - a blatant attempt to deceive the consumer. This must not be allowed to continue!

Please, please, please begin a petition on NewsVine. We have access to tens of thousands of Viners, who can make their voices heard. I'm ready to sign.

Will anyone else join usto end the use of DHMO now?

  • 12 votes
#2 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 9:57 AM EDT
etva

I'm in, with God's help to survive this day...

  • 5 votes
#2.1 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 10:34 AM EDT
Wandered

Where I live, DHMO runoff flows into our streams and lakes unabated, and local authorities just ignore the situation.

  • 8 votes
#2.2 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 10:49 AM EDT
Michael (Astronomy.FM)

That's a great point, Wandered.

And far worse, the pipes in my house are FILLED with the stuff! Unreal.

  • 9 votes
#2.3 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 11:10 AM EDT
robin-6

HI Michael, I am sending this to EVERYONE I know!! Please start this petition. I'm tired of having no choice but to be poisoned by the powers that be. Who the hell do they think they are to run roughshod over all of us!? This is the fascism we are screaming about! When our gov't is taken over the chemical corps and every other locust corps, enough is enough. This has to stop and it won't until we get mad enough collectively to say NO MORE!!

I have a few questions. How did you know it was in your pipes? How old is your home?

PR. If you would please, could you give us a list of the items you're finding this in and especially the ones that you say are not obviously termed or are anacronyms? I know we'd ALL appreciate help in this. I studied Latin in college but lordy, where do they come up with some of these terms?!

Michael, thank you!

  • 7 votes
#2.4 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 1:10 PM EDT
Tony-From-NJ

Robin, I will answer for my part. Traces of this has been found under my faucet sinks. Yes it is an older house, but how did it get there? I placed many phone calls looking for information, but got the run around.

  • 6 votes
#2.5 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 1:14 PM EDT
Michael (Astronomy.FM)

WARNING!! DO NOT READ THIS POST WHILE DHMO (or derivatives) ARE IN YOUR MOUTH!!

(Regarding the presence of DHMO in domestic plumbing...) How did it get there?

The pipes come in, the pipes go out - you can't explain that.

  • 13 votes
#2.6 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 1:29 PM EDT
Physicist-retired

robin,

could you give us a list of the items you're finding this in and especially the ones that you say are not obviously termed or are anacronyms?

I scarcely know where to begin - that stuff is in nearly everything, but isn't always specifically labeled. My research this morning identified many examples of foodstuffs concealing the fact that they contain DHMO:

  • milk
  • all fruit and vegetable juices
  • high-fructose corn syrup
  • all meat products (although levels insome meats, like beef jerkey, are rather low)
  • all soft drinks
  • tomato paste
  • molasses
  • popcorn
  • toothpaste
  • body lotions
  • many, many others - it would take considerable time to make a complete list

Even worse, DHMO is present in many household cleaners:

  • window sprays like Windex
  • most bathroom cleaners
  • dish soaps
  • hand soaps - can you even believe that?
  • again, it's a very long list

Personally, I don't see how we can avoid this substance - it's everywhere. God only knows how much I've absorbed already. Based on what I read today, it wouldn't surprise me if my body is 70% full of it by now.

Wish I had more encouraging news.

  • 11 votes
#2.7 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 1:32 PM EDT
Tony-From-NJ

So they could be piping this stuff in. And I'm supposed to feel safe? What if it busts through the pipe?

  • 5 votes
#2.8 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 1:33 PM EDT
mob_barley

The utility companies say to call them two days before you dig in your own yard. I have no way of proving this but I'm concerned that they are flushing the pipes so you don't find the insidious DHMO they are constantly pumping into YOUR home! I even found some in my dog's water dish! I sent it away to be examined in a lab because I was concerned but I had no idea just how prevalent it was. It is literally percolating through the ground. A recent local news story told of vast quantities of DHMO being found in the aquifer here!!!!

  • 8 votes
#2.9 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 1:42 PM EDT
Physicist-retired

Tony,

What if it busts through the pipe?

Wow - hadn't even thought of that. From Michael's link to dhmo.org above:

Special Precautions
Keep container tightly closed. Suitable for any general chemical storage area.

Dihydrogen monoxide is considered a non-regulated product, but reacts vigorously with some materials. These include sodium, potassium and other alkali metals; elemental fluorine; and strong dehydrating agents such as sulfuric acid. It forms explosive gases with calcium carbide.

Avoid contact with all materials until investigation shows substance is compatible. Expands significantly upon freezing. Do not store in rigid container and protect from freezing.

Even worse, DHMO is colorless and odorless. How would we even know it leaked?

  • 7 votes
#2.10 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 1:51 PM EDT
Future History

The packaged food industry has become quite cavalier with DHMO, even suggesting that their products be rehydrated or even cooked in it!

  • 6 votes
#2.11 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 1:54 PM EDT
robin-6

Sorry, I guess I should have been more specific in what I'm asking. What I am asking is about what pipes you're talking about, i.e your water pipes, septic, sewer lines, pex or copper piping, steel sink drain pipes, resin-based or bonding agents used in new piping vs old piping? Anything and everything pipes of yesteryear and new? Sort of if you know you have a house built before 1978, there is lead paint issues or asbestos siding issues.
I'm just trying to understand where this bad crap is located, and if it's still used in today's new building materials. WHY is no one standing up before now? If I'm a fabricating manufacturer, do I know what I'm dealing with and if not, why not?

I don't get why this is known fact by the World Health Organization and it's not been front page news. Why isn't the CDC involved? This is the first I've ever heard about it. This is an outrage!

  • 5 votes
#2.12 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 2:00 PM EDT
Tony-From-NJ

Thank you. I didn't know what agents it was known to cause reactions with, or how temperature had an effect.

There must be a way for a layman such as myself to "detect" DHMO in the home, without relying on the "experts".

  • 5 votes
#2.13 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 2:01 PM EDT
Mitchell-512733

You know, being here in Hawaii I thought perhaps I was safe from it as it might be only a mainland problem. I was absolutely shocked when I went out this morning and noticed that I'm completely surrounded by it!!!! Every direction, there it was!! Luckily for the time being it seems to be mostly staying put, but I have an uneasily feeling that it's just waiting for me to take a stroll on the beach and then it'll reach out and come crashing down on me :(

Mitchell

  • 6 votes
#2.14 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 2:04 PM EDT
mob_barley

Hydroelectric companies would have us all believe that they are producing clean energy but they use more Dihydrogen Monoxide than any other power supplier in the world!!!!!

  • 9 votes
#2.15 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 2:11 PM EDT
Tony-From-NJ

Look at all the fish dying in the ocean recently. Too much DHMO!!!!!

  • 6 votes
#2.16 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 2:12 PM EDT
robin-6

I spent 2 years of my life recently fighting herbicides spraying in my own front yard. Took it all the way up to the Governor's SEPA attorney whose response was "this is bigger than any of us." That was and is a pretty telling statement.

  • 7 votes
#2.17 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 2:13 PM EDT
robin-6

Who is or are the major manufacturers of this product?

  • 7 votes
#2.18 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 2:16 PM EDT
Future History

Who is or are the major manufacturers of this product?

I believe the two largest offenders are G.O.D. Enterprises, and Mother Nature, LLC.

  • 9 votes
#2.19 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 2:19 PM EDT
robin-6

ahh, so this is natural occuring and we're all just moonbats?

  • 6 votes
#2.20 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 2:26 PM EDT
Tony-From-NJ

Leave it to scientists to chemically change it or add it to everything around us though.

  • 3 votes
#2.21 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 2:28 PM EDT
Tony-From-NJ

Speculation is that it originally arrived in comets long ago. We don't need to mess with nature!

  • 5 votes
#2.22 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 2:31 PM EDT
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Tony-From-NJ

I think my gut is hurting. At work trying not to bust out crying.

  • 10 votes
#2.26 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 2:52 PM EDT
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Physicist-retired

Robin,

I must have had my idiot hat on this morning.

Not everyone is familiar with chemical nomenclature - far from it. You've shown yourself to be a really good sport today. Kudos!

  • 9 votes
#2.30 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 5:03 PM EDT
robin-6

If you've been thru what I was in this chemical controversy, you'd be a little over the top too. There is real validation in most folks opinions and emotions about some of these very real issues. But yes, we can be moonbats at times and this just showed how much so.
Glad you had guilty pleasure. My husbands been having fun with your game ever since.

He has one friend who is heading to Mexico in a few days. His reply was, "at 60 years old I don't give a @!$%# unless it means my dick is going to fall off!"
*LOL

  • 7 votes
#2.31 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 5:05 PM EDT
Physicist-retired

heading to Mexico in a few days

Now THERE'S a good place to stay the hell away from the local DHMO!

  • 9 votes
#2.32 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 5:31 PM EDT
Tony-From-NJ

Montezumas Revenge anyone? LOL

  • 7 votes
#2.33 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 6:44 PM EDT
MakeYourMove

I've heard this one a long time ago. It was on a site called brain of brian or something.

  • 5 votes
#2.34 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 8:11 PM EDT
rwalker-2504195

The Big Business Cabal is also labeling this stuff Dihydrous Oxide, trying to make it sound more innocuous. God help us all indeed....

  • 5 votes
#2.35 - Thu Sep 22, 2011 5:22 PM EDT
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Michael (Astronomy.FM)

I generally avoid deleting posts; I'm a free-speech kinda guy - but too many comments were threatening to derail this article. Regretfully, I've found it necessary to delete posts by Mob Barley, Physicist-retired (a huge surprise), and in particular robin-6.

If you disagree with my decision to delete your posts you may take the matter up with Newsvine management (http://www.newsvine.com/_nv/cms/info/contact). Be forewarned, tho - I've kept a copy of your posts which I will use to defend my decision to moderate this vine. (Contact me if you need a copy of the deleted posts - I'm not unreasonable.)

It's been nearly six months since my original Newsvine article on the dangers of DHMO - something that I've been railing about in my classroom for years. Since I've posted this article the DHMO contamination level world-wide has not abated in the least (except in Texas; congrats to Gov. Perry).

Let's stay on topic people!

  • 4 votes
#2.38 - Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:16 PM EDT
Knight Who Says Ni

michael, there is NO WAY you can give gov perry credit for dhmo abatement in texas! i don't care how powerful a governor is in your country; dhmo control is way beyond what a guv can do!

michael, stop playing politics with dhmo! stop being partisan with dhmo! stop using the dhmo agenda to support your party over the science! after all, wasn't bachmann's comments on how dhmo inoculations causing mental retardation completely discredited?

for shame, michael, for shame!

  • 4 votes
#2.39 - Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:30 PM EDT
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etva

And may God have mercy on their souls for this heinous action!

  • 7 votes
Reply#3 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 10:34 AM EDT
Tony-From-NJ

Thank you for bringing this to everyones attention Michael. This is truly a dangerous chemical and deserves a deeper understanding. I have heard of it causing suffocation and difficulty breathing.

I am in on that petition. Enough is enough.

  • 9 votes
Reply#4 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 11:01 AM EDT
Tony-From-NJ

I'm not the alarmist type, but reports are coming in that clouds of this substance have been seen crossing the ocean and coming toward us. I will post if I get any further develoments.

  • 7 votes
Reply#5 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 11:18 AM EDT
mob_barley

Perhaps the most frightening aspect of all this is the shear overwhelming prevalence of this insidious killer. It is almost everywhere we go and many people don't even realize it's presence. If you've ever gone to one of those automatic car-wash places you probably came out the other side blissfully unaware of the amount of the deadly dihydrogen monoxide that was used in that process.

It is up to those of us that understand this monumental threat to stand united in the fight to ban this heinous threat! So, today, when you gather around the water-cooler in your office be sure to warn all of your coworkers about the threat of dihydrogen monoxide. Let them know that it permeates our very lives and kills millions each year.

According to the World Health Organization DHMO in the lungs is the 3rd leading cause of unintentional injury death worldwide, accounting for 7% of all injury related deaths (est. 388,000 deaths in 2004) with 96% of deaths in low and middle income countries. in the United States, it is the second leading cause of death (after motor vehicle crashes) in children 12 and younger.

  • 9 votes
Reply#6 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 12:19 PM EDT
Tony-From-NJ

And still I'm supposed to have a cup of Folgers when I wake up and not fear drinking this pollutant? I can't believe anything they say anymore.

  • 8 votes
#6.1 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 12:50 PM EDT
Michael (Astronomy.FM)

I can't believe anything "they" say anymore.

I "fixed" that for you "Tony".

The "experts" at the standard tome of writing style, Funky and Wagnells, insists that "they", "them", "experts", "scientists" and so on and so on, must be in "air quotes".

I don't know "why".

Standard usage also insists on lots and lots of exclamation points!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The more "!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!'s" you use the better!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!

  • 9 votes
#6.2 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 1:37 PM EDT
Tony-From-NJ

I did use the term loosely because it can encompass so many areas where "they" may apply. Where do I begin to pass blame on this issue? "They" scientists, "They" government, "They" the local public health service. A collective "Them" may be appropriate. !!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 6 votes
#6.3 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 1:42 PM EDT
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Doug McElroy

It is worse than you might think!  Astronomers have evidence that DHMO is present in some of the planets, possibly even the moon!  It's been found in the interstellar medium, sometimes resulting in masers! 

I think it has spread too far to realistically do anything about it.  Goodbye all . . . .

  • 8 votes
Reply#7 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 1:34 PM EDT
Tony-From-NJ

And now we are drilling the moon to see what we can find. What if they find more?

  • 7 votes
#7.1 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 1:38 PM EDT
Michael (Astronomy.FM)

(doing my best Homer Simpson impression...)

Mmmmmm..... masers.

I don't know about those so-called "astronomers". Always lurking about at night? Always hung up on "facts" and stuff like that?

I don't trust 'em!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 9 votes
#7.2 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 1:40 PM EDT
Tony-From-NJ

Astronomy is looking up. !!!!!

  • 6 votes
#7.3 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 1:43 PM EDT
mob_barley

Too "many" similarities between vampires and "astronomers" for my "taste"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 7 votes
#7.4 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 1:45 PM EDT
Michael (Astronomy.FM)

That's what my wife sez, Mob.

  • 7 votes
#7.5 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 2:09 PM EDT
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Wandered

NPR was saying that DHMO levels around some land masses may be rising as a result of climate change, but you know how biased NPR can be.

  • 7 votes
Reply#8 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 1:41 PM EDT
mob_barley

NPR also ran a story during the crisis caused by Katrina suggesting that the Bush administration had placed explosives at the base of a vital levee. They blew is up (supposedly) to save another area of New Orleans the administration deemed "more important"!!!! This event caused the release of massive amounts of Dihydrogen Monoxide into the area along the 17th street canal!!!!

  • 8 votes
#8.1 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 1:54 PM EDT
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trb-annapmd

My 8 year old has a particularly difficult time with the stuff. She's okay with consumption, but exposure to the skin seems to cause all kinds of whining and complaining.

  • 9 votes
Reply#9 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 1:56 PM EDT
Byron Raum

Also, please keep in mind that DHMO is one of the most potent greenhouse gasses, yet irresponsible members of the industry have made no attempt to curtail its use or take any actions to prevent it reaching the upper atmosphere where it can have serious effects on global climate change.

  • 8 votes
Reply#10 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 1:59 PM EDT
Wandered

If current trends continue, DHMO rain could become almost as prevalent as acid rain.

  • 7 votes
#10.1 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 2:01 PM EDT
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Michael (Astronomy.FM)

WHAT WONDERFUL POSTS! Thank you for contributing to the conversation!

  • 11 votes
#11 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 2:11 PM EDT
mob_barley

I didn't even realize it until just this moment but there is considerable quantities of Dihydrogen Monoxide IN MY COFFEE!!! This is truly the end times.

  • 10 votes
#11.1 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 2:16 PM EDT
Tony-From-NJ

It was my pleasure Michael, and it literally brought a tear to my eye.

Mob, that's what I mean. I must consume vast quantities of it everyday!!!!!

  • 9 votes
#11.2 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 2:20 PM EDT
Mitchell-512733

It is Mob, it is! I noticed my bowl of cereal also contained it after I looked:( It's my favorite food to eat, what am I supposed to do now?

Mitchell

  • 8 votes
#11.3 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 2:21 PM EDT
Wandered

Tony, as much as you consume, it wouldn't surprise me if even those tears this brought to your eye had some DHMO in them. I understand it shows up in bodily fluids first.

  • 7 votes
#11.4 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 2:27 PM EDT
Surly_sue

You know, coffee just wouldn't be the same without its DHMO content... And I sooo love my coffee. So am I addicted to DHMO? Well, yes, I do believe I am. I frankly believe that I would not be able to live without it.

  • 7 votes
#11.5 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 2:30 PM EDT
Future History

The government is not your friend!! Next thing you know they will declare that life cannot exist without DHMO.

  • 6 votes
#11.6 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 2:33 PM EDT
mob_barley

Well, we'll show that lousy old government! We should put as much Dihydrogen Monoxide in THEIR water as they have put in ours!! Who's with "me"!?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 10 votes
#11.7 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 2:39 PM EDT
Tony-From-NJ

Hear Hear!

  • 5 votes
#11.8 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 2:41 PM EDT
CL1

It was hydrogen produced by the reaction of DHMO with the partially melted nuclear fuel rods at Dai-ichi that directly resulted in the massive explosions seen at Reactors #1, #2, and #4. (Elements which are more electropositive than hydrogen such as lithium, sodium, calcium, potassium, and in particular caesium, displace hydrogen from DHMO, forming hydroxides - this process is called "radiolysis".

Don't ya just love it when those that have 'something' to gain by, in this case, leaving details out about what caused the explosions - or in other cases, use linguistical tactics to deceive us, obfuscate the point, or use the 'this isn't as bad as that' or 'this is better than using that' ...when 'both' are destructive to our health! ..(like Monsanto's "substantial equivalence" ..what kind of logic is that?)

Thank you for this info, Michael. I wonder if this could have anything to do with my intermittent burning eyes, nose and throat that has been happening? It generally happens when it's raining, seems to last for 24 to 36 hours, then a two or three day break, then it's back. I don't know anyone else that has said they have experienced what I'm talking about. I have not experienced the symptoms you mentioned in your article. I'm Wa. St., around two hours from the coast.

I'd love to get DHMO out of our lives and the atmosphere, environment. As it is currently, how can we escape the detrimental effects of solvents? Look at where that technology lead in the hands of players like Monsanto. ...I'm in Michael.

  • 6 votes
#11.9 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 3:26 PM EDT
CL1

11.1 - how did you discover the significant amounts of DMHO in your coffee?

  • 6 votes
#11.10 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 3:27 PM EDT
mob_barley

I don't make the coffee at work. It gets drank so quickly that someone else is always making the coffee. But, after reading this article I watched and lo-and-behold there she was dumping large quantities of Dihydrogen Monoxide into the coffee maker. I was appalled! I don't know what to do. I know that once you are on DHMO you can't quit it or else you'll die. What do I do now?!!!

  • 7 votes
#11.11 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 3:35 PM EDT
CL1

Do you know why she was dumping it into the coffeemaker?

  • 7 votes
#11.12 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 6:22 PM EDT
MakeYourMove

Maybe she was trying to poison her coworkers! :0 Diabolical plan!

  • 6 votes
#11.13 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 8:16 PM EDT
CL1

Seriously, mob_barley, who would risk doing something like that (and get sued)? ...Are you joking?

  • 5 votes
#11.14 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 8:59 PM EDT
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AnnaBanana-3260243

CL1, you do know that this whole bit was an April Fool's joke, right? :-)

DHMO is water...just water! I do agree with you about Monsanto, though!

Just wanted to make sure you were able to sleep tonight!

  • 8 votes
Reply#12 - Fri Apr 1, 2011 10:59 PM EDT
CL1

Ahhhhh ... I didn't. LOL. Thank you! I probably look up and verify 90% of what I'm not certain about, and the one time I didn't .... Because I thought Michael (Astronomy.FM) appeared to be credible ...you better be watching your back, Michael....<evil grin> ....just joking.

...And it really seemed so true, too. :)

Thanks AnnaBanana ~ I owe ya one.

  • 7 votes
#12.1 - Sat Apr 2, 2011 1:05 AM EDT
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Rusty007

I regret to inform you that since Desert Storm, the US Armed Forces have been using DHMO compounds in their MREs (Meals ready-to-eat). There is even a new MRE for when troops do not have water and can completely replace it with DHMO. The package for "instant water," as they have labeled it, reads, "Add one part DHMO and stir."

Even though these MREs are certainly delicious meals in themselves, I think it's our duty to support our troops and demand that the DHMO contamination of their MREs be immediately discontinued!

  • 7 votes
Reply#13 - Sat Apr 2, 2011 12:10 AM EDT
Michael (Astronomy.FM)

Agreed! SEMPER FI!

  • 6 votes
#13.1 - Sun Apr 3, 2011 4:32 PM EDT
Michael (Astronomy.FM)

Comment # 14 [below] by Dave Reneke has been deleted - attempt to derail the conversation.

  • 2 votes
#13.2 - Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:22 PM EDT
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Dave RenekeDeleted
CL1

Michael, just curious if you wouldn't mind offering your opinion on my comment 18.4 in this article; thank you in advance, if so.

http://primarysources.newsvine.com/_news/2011/03/31/6385429-crowd-sourcing-a-nuclear-worst-case-scenario-are-we-all-fukushimad#c53018271

  • 5 votes
Reply#15 - Sun Apr 3, 2011 10:13 PM EDT
CL1

Michael, in case my question in the other article isn't clear, I was wondering if you have an opinion for/against the use of microwaves for cooking and their safety ... and why.

  • 4 votes
#15.1 - Sun Apr 3, 2011 11:04 PM EDT
Michael (Astronomy.FM)

Hiya CL!

When CE started on the "microwaving water destroys its nutrients" line I decided to take a break (what a bizarre notion that is).

As to your much more reasonable question of the impact microwaving has on food nutrients - I don't know. My guess is that any properly prepared food will be just fine.

Cheers! ~Michael (AFM*Radio / Astronomy.FM)

  • 5 votes
#15.2 - Sun Apr 3, 2011 11:05 PM EDT
CL1

Hi -- Ok, *thanks.* ..You seem to have general background info on radiation and possibly microwaves or wave technology, so thought I'd ask your opinion (and I would never hold anyone responsible/liable for an "opinion." :) ...I've read a few sites suggesting we're getting radiation exposure from microwaved foods, and I thought, "huh?" ...so thought I'd ask. ..Hard to know what's fact anymore (and then, is anything really a "fact" or is it just a perception?! lol)

  • 5 votes
#15.3 - Sun Apr 3, 2011 11:13 PM EDT
Michael (Astronomy.FM)

There is no radiation exposure from a microwave, unless it has been damaged and the seal is broken.

A microwave is like a beam of light; it's a photon, of a different energy level than visible light. Like how turning off a light switch turns off a light bulb, when the microwave is done the radiation is done - there is no more photons being made.

Microwaves "excite" water molecules, making them more active and therefore hotter. Temperature is nothing more than a way to measure how much molecules are moving around.

As a sideline business I do home inspections (home building is the family business, inspections are a fun combo of my science and building knowledge). I have a microwave detector, and after many years and many dozens of inspections, it has never detected microwaves outside of an oven.

Out of a surplus of caution I tell my daughters that they are not to smush their faces against the microwave window when it's cooking, but that's just being a Dad.

  • 5 votes
#15.4 - Sun Apr 3, 2011 11:34 PM EDT
CL1

It's always been said don't stand close to, touch or look at the microwave when it's on - I've wondered about the implication of 'MWs' on the outside; but it was always stated the food or liquids aren't radioactive after using a microwave, and it was 'never' suggested that nutrients were destroyed anymore than conventional cooking. I use the microwave quite a bit, so am hoping everything's Ok.

Thanks a lot for offering your opinion; it's very appreciated!

  • 5 votes
#15.5 - Sun Apr 3, 2011 11:49 PM EDT
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Dave Reneke

Michael

Yes, I'm stil interested in doing some work with you there and will certainly contac t you when I'm set up. I have a BIG plan in mind which you will figure in so sit tight till I get a few things outa the way here. Getting back to the US in time for another launch attempt is unfortunately not possible for me $$ wise. Might go back though sometime in the future and yep, will hold you to that dinner promise :)

  • 5 votes
Reply#16 - Sun Apr 3, 2011 10:54 PM EDT
Michael (Astronomy.FM)

Oh, I LIKE big plans! Let me know how I can help.

  • 5 votes
#16.1 - Sun Apr 3, 2011 11:35 PM EDT
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Dennis P McCann

Despite the danger, dihydrogen monoxide is often used:
* as an industrial solvent and coolant.
* in nuclear power plants.
* in the production of styrofoam.
* as a fire retardant.
* in many forms of cruel animal research.
* in the distribution of pesticides. Even after washing, produce remains contaminated by this chemical!
* as an additive in certain "junk-foods" and other food products.
* to dissolve medicines before giving them to children and older adults.

I put it in my coffee every morning.

  • 6 votes
Reply#17 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 4:56 AM EDT
Michael (Astronomy.FM)

You live an exciting and dangerous life, my friend! ;-p

  • 7 votes
#17.1 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 12:24 PM EDT
Dennis P McCann

What can I say? Besides those other great qualities, it's highly addictive.

  • 7 votes
#17.2 - Mon Apr 4, 2011 2:44 PM EDT
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mountainfirefall

seems to be a great deal of radiation in the DHMO as well.

especially for those Japanese children near the plant. Forward this to their mothers, they may find it very entertaining.

sarc.

  • 3 votes
Reply#18 - Wed Jun 1, 2011 4:38 PM EDT
Wm. Sanders

You know DMHO is just a fancy term for water, right? lol

  • 2 votes
Reply#19 - Wed Oct 12, 2011 12:47 PM EDT
Tony-From-NJ

That's what THEY want you to believe.

  • 3 votes
#19.1 - Wed Oct 12, 2011 12:51 PM EDT
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